Podcast episode · 3 February 2026

Miranda Kerr: Why Orlando and I Chose Forgiveness (and how my new husband helped me)

Miranda Kerr opens up about the moments that shaped her life, from devastating early loss to navigating fame, forgiveness and co-parenting with Orlando…

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86 min

Miranda Kerr opens up about the moments that shaped her life, from devastating early loss to navigating fame, forgiveness and co-parenting with Orlando Bloom. She reflects on imposter syndrome, life under constant paparazzi scrutiny and explains why she never truly felt like a “supermodel.” Miranda also shares how meeting her husband, Snapchat founder Evan Spiegel, helped her redefine boundaries, family and what a healthy partnership looks like. This is a rare, deeply personal conversation about grief, resilience and motherhood.

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(00:00) Intro

(01:38) What Oprah Taught Paul About Lighting

(03:35) Miranda's Childhood in Rural Australia

(10:28) The Beginnings of Miranda's Modelling Career

(15:15) Miranda Breaks Down What It's Like to Be an Aspiring Model

(22:52) How Miranda Became a Victoria's Secret Model

(26:33) What Is the Definition of a 'Supermodel' and Does Miranda Consider Herself One?

(33:28) How Miranda Met Orlando Bloom

(35:06) Miranda’s Biggest Lessons From Her Relationship With Orlando and Handling the Paparazzi

(39:40) Huel Ad

(40:48) How Miranda Met Her Husband Evan Spiegel

(47:16) How Miranda Keeps Things Harmonious in Her Blended Family

(51:48) Miranda’s Thoughts on Children and Social Media

(58:31) We Need To Talk LA Trailer

(59:28) Miranda's First Love And Sudden Passing

(01:10:55) Miranda’s Mum’s Cancer Diagnosis and the Birth of Her Skincare Business

(01:14:51) Will Miranda Remain CEO of KORA Organics?

(01:16:50) Most Memorable Conversation

(01:19:41) Paul’s Takeaways

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