Podcast episode · 1 October 2026

The Untold Stories Behind the Songs That Changed Everything

For Black History Month, we revisit Paul’s conversations with Estelle and Akon, exploring the stories behind their biggest songs, career-defining moments…

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24 min

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For Black History Month, we revisit Paul’s conversations with Estelle and Akon, exploring the stories behind their biggest songs, career-defining moments and lasting impact on music. From Estelle creating “American Boy” in a Miami studio to Akon writing “Locked Up” while in prison, they share the stories behind some of their biggest records and the moments that changed their careers.

They also reflect on the work behind so-called overnight success, Akon’s 10-year plan for his future, the business opportunities he spotted early in digital music, and why both artists have always focused on making records that last. It’s a conversation about creativity, purpose, longevity and making music that connects across generations. We're Talking Music Legends

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